{"id":34,"date":"2018-01-17T23:09:15","date_gmt":"2018-01-17T21:09:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/?page_id=34"},"modified":"2023-02-15T20:26:51","modified_gmt":"2023-02-15T18:26:51","slug":"jose-luis-cabouli-vaig-voler-ser-un-cirurgia-danimes","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/jose-luis-cabouli-vaig-voler-ser-un-cirurgia-danimes\/","title":{"rendered":"Jos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli: &#8222;Am vrut s\u0103 fiu un chirurg de suflete&#8221;."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large\"><b>Jos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli: &#8222;Am vrut s\u0103 fiu un chirurg de suflete&#8221;.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>&#8222;Am vrut s\u0103 fiu un chirurg de suflete&#8221;.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b><em><span lang=\"es-ES\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-781 size-full\" title=\"La Naci\u00f3n (Natiunea). Sigl\u0103.\" src=\"https:\/\/animaweb.cat\/files\/2020\/01\/La_Nacion_Logotip_72ppp_200x21px.png\" alt=\"La Naci\u00f3n (Natiunea). Sigl\u0103.\" width=\"200\" height=\"21\" \/><\/span><\/em>De Luis Aubele. Interviu publicat \u00een ziarul &#8222;La Naci\u00f3n&#8221;, Buenos Aires, 22\u201103\u20112009.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_53\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-53\" style=\"width: 200px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-53 size-full\" title=\"Jos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli. Foto: La Naci\u00f3n (Natiunea).\" src=\"https:\/\/animaweb.cat\/files\/2018\/01\/Jose_Luis_Cabouli_La_Nacion.jpg\" alt=\"Jos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli. Foto: La Naci\u00f3n (Natiunea).\" width=\"200\" height=\"133\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-53\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli. Foto: La Naci\u00f3n (Natiunea).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">&#8222;Ce am fost eu \u00eenainte de a fi Jos\u00e9 Luis?&#8221;, a \u00eenceput s\u0103 se \u00eentrebe c\u00e2nd avea 8 ani. Ceea ce este amuzant este c\u0103, la acea vreme, nu auzise niciodat\u0103 de re\u00eencarnare; nu numai c\u0103 nu \u0219tia ce este, dar nici m\u0103car nu cuno\u0219tea cuv\u00e2ntul. &#8222;Abia c\u00e2\u021biva ani mai t\u00e2rziu, \u00eentre 15 \u0219i 16 ani, am \u0219tiut ce este, dar a fost nevoie de \u00eenc\u0103 20 de ani, c\u00e2nd eram deja chirurg plastician cu ani de practic\u0103, pentru a \u00een\u021belege c\u0103 re\u00eencarnarea ar putea avea un scop terapeutic&#8221;, \u00ee\u0219i aminte\u0219te Jos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli, medic \u0219i terapeut specializat \u00een terapia vie\u021bilor trecute.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">&#8222;\u00cen realitate, nu am abandonat niciodat\u0103 materia, am continuat s\u0103 o studiez, \u00eentotdeauna ca pe ceva interesant, dar \u00een paralel cu via\u021ba mea profesional\u0103. Adev\u0103rul este c\u0103, contrar credin\u021bei populare, chirurgii au preocup\u0103ri spirituale profunde. Suntem permanent \u00een contact cu lucruri transcendente, cum ar fi via\u021ba \u0219i moartea fiin\u021belor umane&#8221;, spune el.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">Cabouli organizeaz\u0103 seminarii \u00een \u021bar\u0103, Chile, Uruguay, Mexic \u0219i Spania. Este autorul mai multor c\u0103r\u021bi, printre care <i>La vida antes de nacer<\/i> (<i>Via\u021ba \u00eenainte de na\u0219tere<\/i>), <i>El trabajo del alma<\/i> (<i>Lucrarea sufletului<\/i>), <i>El viaje del alma<\/i> (<i>C\u0103l\u0103toria sufletului<\/i>) <i>\u0219i Terapia de vidas pasadas<\/i> (<i>Terapia vie\u021bii anterioare<\/i>)<i>.<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>Cum a ajuns s\u0103 renun\u021be la opera\u021bie \u00een favoarea terapiei vie\u021bii anterioare?\u2013<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">\u00cen 1988 aveam o problem\u0103 cu locul de munc\u0103, o dezangajare, \u0219i nu am vrut s\u0103 lupt pentru un loc de munc\u0103 care nu mai conta pentru mine. Mi-am dat demisia \u0219i m-am sim\u021bit eliberat, cu mai mult timp pentru mine, \u0219i am decis s\u0103 petrec c\u00e2teva zile de vacan\u021b\u0103 pe plaja din Ostende (Argentina). \u00centr-o sear\u0103, dup\u0103 pr\u00e2nz, am luat un \u0219ezlong \u0219i m-am dus s\u0103 meditez sub stele. \u00cemi amintesc c\u0103 m\u0103 aflam l\u00e2ng\u0103 o colib\u0103 pe care Arturo Frondizi o construise \u00een tinere\u021be \u00eempreun\u0103 cu tat\u0103l \u0219i fra\u021bii s\u0103i. \u0218i dintr-o dat\u0103, nu pot descrie exact ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat, am sim\u021bit c\u0103 profesia de chirurg nu m\u0103 mai interesa \u0219i c\u0103 o alt\u0103 cale se deschidea \u00een fa\u021ba mea, \u0219i am decis s\u0103 m\u0103 dedic terapiei, voiam s\u0103 fiu un chirurg de suflete. Nu-mi amintesc mai multe detalii, dar \u00eentr-o clip\u0103 am decis s\u0103-mi schimb complet cursul vie\u021bii. Acest lucru m-a f\u0103cut s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd nu faci ceea ce trebuie s\u0103 faci, via\u021ba te oblig\u0103 s\u0103 faci ceea ce trebuie s\u0103 faci.\u2013<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>Ce este terapia vie\u021bilor anterioare?\u2013<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">Const\u0103 \u00een aducerea \u00een con\u0219tiin\u021b\u0103 a unor episoade traumatice reprimate \u00een incon\u0219tient \u0219i care provoac\u0103 tulbur\u0103ri \u00een via\u021ba de zi cu zi. Aducerea lor \u00eenapoi \u0219i retr\u0103irea lor cu toate sentimentele pe care le-au declan\u0219at, nu doar relatarea lor. Primul pas \u00een \u00een\u021belegerea terapiei vie\u021bilor trecute este s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem c\u0103 timpul nu exist\u0103. Timpul liniar, cronologic, m\u0103surabil este o conven\u021bie, un acord pe care l-am f\u0103cut pentru a ne gestiona. \u00cen realitate, nimeni nu a \u021binut vreodat\u0103 o secund\u0103 \u00een m\u00e2n\u0103. Exist\u0103 chiar \u0219i calendare diferite: maya\u0219, ebraic \u0219i a\u0219a mai departe. \u0218i nu l-am inventat eu, o spune \u00eensu\u0219i Sigmund Freud c\u00e2nd sus\u021bine c\u0103 incon\u0219tientul este atemporal. Dar mai este ceva.\u2013<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>De exemplu?\u2013<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">Al doilea lucru pe care trebuie s\u0103-l \u00een\u021belegem este ceea ce se nume\u0219te captarea con\u0219tiin\u021bei. Atunci c\u00e2nd reac\u021bion\u0103m neputincio\u0219i la o anumit\u0103 situa\u021bie, se datoreaz\u0103 faptului c\u0103 la nivel incon\u0219tient retr\u0103im o experien\u021b\u0103 nerezolvat\u0103 care a fost prins\u0103 \u0219i declan\u0219at\u0103 de similitudinea cu situa\u021bia prezent\u0103. Imagina\u021bi-v\u0103 o femeie care este \u00eengrozit\u0103 de ideea de a se \u00eembarca pe un vas, deoarece este \u00eenc\u0103 prins\u0103 \u00een capcan\u0103 \u0219i se zbate \u00een apele \u00eenghe\u021bate din noaptea de 14 aprilie 1912, c\u00e2nd s-a scufundat Titanicul. Sau cineva care nu poate urca \u00eentr-un lift pentru c\u0103 este claustrofob \u0219i a fost \u00eengropat de viu, lucru destul de comun la un moment dat, sau a murit \u00een pr\u0103bu\u0219irea unei mine.\u2013<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>Cum ajunge un profesionist cu o preg\u0103tire \u0219tiin\u021bific\u0103 s\u0103 fie interesat de o terapie at\u00e2t de neobi\u0219nuit\u0103?\u2013<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">-Niciodat\u0103 nu am abandonat metoda \u0219tiin\u021bific\u0103, metoda celor trei piloni: observa\u021bie, experimentare \u0219i verificare. Observarea fenomenului \u0219i efectuarea experien\u021belor necesare pentru a verifica adev\u0103rul acestuia. Terapia vie\u021bilor trecute are multe puncte comune cu psihologia clasic\u0103. \u00cen ambele cazuri, este vorba de a face incon\u0219tient incon\u0219tientul con\u0219tient, a\u0219a cum sublinia \u0219i Freud. Diferen\u021ba const\u0103 \u00een faptul c\u0103 terapia vie\u021bilor trecute caut\u0103 s\u0103 l\u0103rgeasc\u0103 orizontul prin dep\u0103\u0219irea copil\u0103riei, a na\u0219terii sau a st\u0103rii fetale \u0219i s\u0103 ajung\u0103 la \u00eencarn\u0103rile anterioare.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>Cazuri de care v\u0103 aminti\u021bi?\u2013<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">\u00cen Spania am tratat o femeie care era \u00eengrozit\u0103 de \u0219erpi. Nici m\u0103car nu puteai s\u0103 le nume\u0219ti \u00een prezen\u021ba ei, pentru c\u0103 ar fi \u00eenceput s\u0103 \u021bipe de disperare. \u00cen timpul terapiei a retr\u0103it c\u0103 era o feti\u021b\u0103 care se plimba pe un drum cu mama ei c\u00e2nd a ap\u0103rut un \u0219arpe veninos, o cobr\u0103 care se leg\u0103na \u00een fa\u021ba lor cu o limb\u0103 amenin\u021b\u0103toare. Mama a \u00eencercat s\u0103 distrag\u0103 aten\u021bia \u0219arpelui mut\u00e2ndu-se \u00eentr-o parte, dar apoi, c\u00e2nd fata a r\u0103mas singur\u0103, \u0219arpele a mu\u0219cat-o \u0219i fata a murit. Retr\u0103irea acelui moment a eliberat-o pe femeie \u0219i a doua zi m-a sunat s\u0103-mi spun\u0103 c\u0103 \u0219i-a pierdut frica de reptile, c\u0103 se g\u00e2ndea s\u0103 mearg\u0103 la gr\u0103dina zoologic\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 va face ceva ce nu-\u0219i imaginase niciodat\u0103: va vizita serpentariul.\u2013<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>Mai sunt \u0219i altele?\u2013<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">O femeie care \u00ee\u0219i retr\u0103ie\u0219te na\u0219terea a exclamat: &#8222;Dar aceasta nu este mama mea! Nu \u0219tiam c\u0103 a fost adoptat\u0103. Exist\u0103 cazuri \u00een care pacientul descoper\u0103 c\u0103 este re\u00eencarnarea unui frate mai mare care a murit la na\u0219tere.\u2013<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>Ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 re\u00eencarnarea pentru tine?\u2013<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\">\u2013<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">Pentru mine este o realitate, o experien\u021b\u0103, de\u0219i \u00een\u021beleg foarte bine c\u0103 exist\u0103 oameni care nu g\u00e2ndesc la fel.\u2013<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\">Link c\u0103tre interviul original pe site-ul <i>Terapia de vidas pasadas<\/i> (<i>Terapia vie\u021bii anterioare<\/i>):<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vidaspasadas.com.ar\/articulos\/entrevista2.html\">https:\/\/www.vidaspasadas.com.ar\/articulos\/entrevista2.html<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"ro-RO\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman, serif\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><b>Traducere: Govor Marian Cosmin.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli: &#8222;Am vrut s\u0103 fiu un chirurg de suflete&#8221;. &#8222;Am vrut s\u0103 fiu un chirurg de suflete&#8221;. De Luis Aubele. Interviu publicat \u00een ziarul &#8222;La Naci\u00f3n&#8221;, Buenos Aires, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/jose-luis-cabouli-vaig-voler-ser-un-cirurgia-danimes\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continu\u0103 lectura<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> \u201eJos\u00e9 Luis Cabouli: &#8222;Am vrut s\u0103 fiu un chirurg de suflete&#8221;.\u201d<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12345698,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-34","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/34","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12345698"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=34"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/34\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2400,"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/34\/revisions\/2400"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/animaweb.blog.pangea.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=34"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}